Any paricular manager? ;-) Actually, news travels fast round here, so I'd already heard you'd had a falling out with him ;-) FWIW, the seating plan thing has caused much heated discussion down here too, mostly because a certain DBA wants the best seat and will bully anyone and everyone to get it. I *think* we've agreed to draw lots, but I'm 99% certain I'll arrive on Monday morning to find she's already bagsed a corner and is not shifting for anyone :-/ Even the boss is not prepared to stand up to her.